Over the years, there have been indications from some personcentred writers that there are times in the therapy session when there is a kind of peak experience, transforming both client and therapist. In his later years, Rogers (in Kirschenbaum and Henderson 1990a: 137) described this quality and named it `presence'. He wrote:
When I am at my best, as a group facilitator or a therapist, I discover another characteristic. I ®nd that when I am closest to my inner, intuitive self, when I am somehow in touch with the unknown in me, when perhaps I am in a slightly altered state of consciousness in the relationship, then whatever I do seems to be full of healing. Then simply my presence is releasing and helpful.