ABSTRACT
This chapter presents a conversation between Thomas H. Ogden and Luca Di Donna. It discusses the sources of inspiration in Thomas H. Ogden's early work that led him to embrace British Object Relations theory of unconscious process and role of language in psychoanalysis. Ogden deals with many forms of interplay of truth and psychic change, the transformative effect of conscious and unconscious efforts to confront the truth of experience and how psychoanalysts can understand their own psychic evolution, as well as that of their patients. Ogden thinks that the role of language in human creation is valued by writers of literature and by psychoanalysts in ways that are very similar. To take the idea that language makes people human a step further, he think that if they are to respond to what is uniquely human about each of their patients, they must develop with the patient an analytic conversation that they could have with no other person in the world.
