Discussions on the relationship between religion and law tend to oppose the view of religion and law as distinct normative orders based on different sources and legitimation. Legal pluralism has been a common condition in the Indonesian archipelago as the consequence of the co-existence of religious legal notions, mainly Islam and Hindu, with the various ethnic legal orders usually referred to as adat. The symbolic universes of adat, Islam and the state each have their own main protagonists, who speak for "their" systems, based on the legitimation that their system provides them, such as state officials and government lawyers for state law, religious scholars for the shari'a, and adat experts for adat. The matrilineal social order was mainly challenged by orthodox Islamic Minangkabau. The significance of ABSSBK and TTS remains central to these debates. But the political field has changed in which the ideological debates have been carried out.