ABSTRACT
This conversation centers around the work and leadership experiences of Tony Butler and Lori Fogarty, both of whom leader organisations that act as exemplars of progressive, audience-centred museum practice. They, and their respective teams, have placed social impact, wellness, trust, and genuine relationship building with community at the heart of their organisations. This conversation was recorded on May 18, 2018. At the time Tony Butler was Director of Derby Museums Trust, Derby, U.K. and Lori Fogarty was Director and CEO of the Oakland Museum of California, Oakland, U.S.
