This chapter focuses on three interviews, each of 1–2 hours: with Tadashi Endo on December 1 in Gottingen, 2016; with Minako Seki on December 4 in Berlin; and with Yumiko Yoshioka over Skype on December 13. When Endo shifts the expressive impulse from the chest to the hands, he makes a space for Ohno Kazuo in the memory of Bausch's dance. He also, in a matter of seconds, traces a history of butoh's involvement with other dance forms: flamenco and German Expressionism. As Yoshioka suggests, the "butoh body" is a common body: "everybody has memories which are common," and this commonality is the "butoh body". Both Seki and Yoshioka have been working on body methods that enable plural forms of attention since the early days of Tatoeba-theatre Danse Grotesque. Seki, Yoshioka, and Endo take "transformation," "dancing in between," and "ma," as moveable terms for describing a lifelong work-in-progress.