The following conversation took place on April 2, 2016, for approximately 60 minutes. Jason Yip moderated the conversation between professors Christopher Hoadley (New York University) and Carl DiSalvo (Georgia Institute of Technology). The main points of this discussion about participatory design and the learning sciences focused on several themes:

How each of the discussants came to become involved in participatory design (from learning to design and from design to learning)

The challenges of learning and participatory design, particularly as the boundaries between user/design and teacher/learner are blurring

How participatory design can be disruptive to learning design

The future challenges of involving stakeholders in the design of their learning environments, including how public funding shapes design and learning