ABSTRACT
This chapter presents a night-long conversation between Charles Derber and the Marx's ghost on positive anarchy. Anarchism is an important philosophical tradition, and one historically intertwined with Marxism. It talks about the inherent violence and corruption of all states and envisions a world in which people are fully self-governing. Ultimately, political power and the state will disappear as class divisions disappear. But the anarchists reject any effort whatsoever to take state power. They oppose the corporate state, but they believe that any effort to seize control will lead the Left to be as corrupt and antidemocratic as all real states or governments tend to become. Mikhail Bakunin, like Max Weber, recognized that the state could assume its own bureaucratic powers even if it did not represent capitalists. Even socialist states could become repressive, unless they were checked by grassroots organizations of neighborhoods, unions, and other voluntary organizations in civil society.
